Swine Flu Bottom Line: How Scared Should You Be?
The single biggest challenge (so far) about swine flu is that the two questions your brain most badly wants answered are technically unanswerable: 1. What are my chances of getting it? 2. What are my chances of dying?
Our brains are wired to ask those questions. They are damn good questions. But no one really knows the answer (more on why that is coming soon). In the meantime, the trick is to make an educated guess. And that we can do pretty easily.
A bunch of people have emailed me lately to ask for help with the educated guess. I’m no doctor, but I’ve been fairly well immersed in studying swine flu (formally known as pandemic H1N1 of 2009) for a couple months now, as those of you following me on Twitter know a little too well. And I know a bit about how the brain processes risk--and the mistakes we tend to make. So here’s what I think:
1. Should I get the regular seasonal flu shot?
I would. It will be available earlier than usual this year, and even though it offers no protection against swine flu, it is a good way to hedge your bets. Why? Well, swine flu (the other flu) is extremely infectious--so your chances of getting it may be relatively high. If you get it, you will almost certainly recover. It is milder than regular seasonal flu so far. But it will kind of suck to be sick as a dog for a week to 10 days. If you get the seasonal flu shot, you at least reduce your chances of being sick as a dog twice this year. Plus, the truth is, too many people die or get hospitalized from seasonal flu in an ordinary year. So might as well not be one of them.
And let’s be clear: there’s no evidence that you can get the flu from the flu shot. The shot contains a killed, inactive version of the virus. The flu mist nasal spray contains a live version, but it is very weak. You may get a low-grade fever for a day or two, if you’re unlucky, but nothing like the actual flu. This thing is pretty well studied at this point, and it is very safe. I plan to get it, as I usually do. I figure my life is frantic enough without getting knocked flat by an optional virus.
2. Should I get the H1N1 (swine flu) vaccine when it comes out later this fall?
I will be getting it. I am not a health care worker or pregnant, under age 25, diabetic, asthmatic or dealing with any of the other chronic conditions that put people at higher risk. So I don’t want to take someone else’s dose. But once it’s widely available, which will probably be in November or so, I plan to get it.
It’s being manufactured the same way the regular seasonal flu vaccine is manufactured. Every year, the flu vaccine is altered to address different strains. So this is the same deal: same vaccine shell for a different strain. Also, it is being tested all summer by regular (if weirdly generous) people, and that includes pregnant women, small children and the elderly.
3. What about my kids? Should I get the vaccines for them, too?
This one is the easiest question, actually. Children are at higher risk when it comes to both kinds of flu (swine and seasonal). So as long as they are over 6 mos old and don’t have a severe allergy to chicken eggs, it makes sense to get them vaccinated for both. If they have any underlying issues--like diabetes or asthma--it is even more urgent.
OK, take a deep breath: For some kids, this may mean getting 4 different doses in all… Kids need two shots of regular flu vaccine the first year they get the shot (and only one seasonal flu shot after that)--and may need two shots of the new, H1N1 vaccine, too. This sounds unreasonable, I know. But it will probably be easier than ever to get these shots this year. Lots of schools, stores, pharmacies and doctor’s offices will be offering them. Also, the feds are paying for the H1N1 vaccine, so you should only have to pay a small administrative fee (or nothing, if your insurance covers it).
Lots of people are worried about thimerosal (a preservative) in vaccines. I’m not going to get in the weeds here on this very passionate debate, but I will say that both vaccines will be offered to children in thimerosal-free versions. So hopefully this won’t be a big issue. If you want to know more about the thimerosal debate, I recommend How Safe are Vaccines? by my Time colleague Alice Park.
For anyone trying to convince someone else (say a spouse or a grandparent) that the flu shot is a good idea for a child, you could always have them watch this CDC video. Once you’ve seen it, it’s hard to forget… And I know it’s kind of a cheap shot, because stories are always more compelling than stats (and the fact is that the number of kids who die from flu each year is pretty small--compared to, say, the four kids who die every day in car crashes in the U.S.). But still. There is a time and a place for manipulative storytelling, and this may not be a bad time and place:
4. What if I’m pregnant? Or thinking about getting pregnant?
So far, pregnant women have represented 6% of the people who have died from pandemic H1N1, according to the CDC. Pregnant women have also represented 6% of those hospitalized with the virus. But pregnant women only actually represent 1% of the population. So you can see that they are at higher risk of having serious issues from this otherwise moderate bug.
That said, if you are pregnant, your chances of having problems are still pretty small. If I were pregnant, I would get the vaccine as soon as it becomes available (likely mid-October). As I mentioned, it is being tested on pregnant women right now. And it is almost identical to the regular seasonal flu vaccine, which pregnant women are also supposed to get.
It’s hard to say if there’s enough risk to delay getting pregnant until the vaccine comes out… But since it’s coming out in a month, maybe it’s not such a hard question. Still, keep in mind that it will take 3 weeks for you to develop immunity--starting from the day you get your shot. Why? Because it takes a few weeks for your body to develop immunity.
5. So what’s the big deal?
Flu viruses are crafty bastards. They can change at any time. So the best defense is wisdom. You don’t need to worry about it as long as you check in with a few different, reliable sources of information every so often. What is a reliable source when it comes to swine flu? I can tell you that it’s generally not TV news. This thing is too nuanced for segments that last 52 seconds. But pick a couple sources--ideally ones that don’t all link to each other. My own favorites:
FLU.GOV (the federal government’s site)
FLUWIKI (a collaborative problem-solving wiki site)
THE PETER M. SANDMAN RISK COMMUNICATION SITE (a great site by an expert in risk communication--who has been following H1N1 closer than 99% of the population. Also, he’s funny, honest and blunt.)









susan lickey said on September 06, 2009 at 12:50 pm
thank you Amanda, great article & Video!!! Hopefully this will make
parents think twice about not getting their kids vaccinated.
Joy said on September 06, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Thanks for the info, Amanda. Knowing how deeply you’ve been covering this story I trust your recommendations. Also, I love that you point out that thimerosal-free vaccines are available for kids (will save a lot of time).
Fact Checker2 said on September 06, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Great post, Amanda.
One correction: You wrote “Kids need two shots of regular flu vaccine...”
Kids only need two shots of regular flu vaccine the FIRST year that they get their flu shots. After that, they only need one seasonal flu shot, just like grownups.
CDC’s Seasonal Flu Vaccine Q&A;page states that “studies have shown that two doses are needed in children younger than 9 the first year they are vaccinated in order to maximize the protective benefit from vaccination.” ( http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/fluvaccine.htm )
That is another reason to get first-time young vaccinees vaccinated as early in the season as possible: they need two shots, about three weeks apart, and will take longer to build up immunity.
Peter said on September 06, 2009 at 10:25 pm
It just was announced that there are over 2,000 cases of swine flu at Washington State University. No one seems particularly sick, fortunately.
Goju said on September 07, 2009 at 7:34 pm
“No one seems particularly sick"… yet.
Daniel Hahn said on September 11, 2009 at 10:21 am
Great educational post Amanda, thanks for spelling it out and saying it without trying to be politically correct
Damn, crafty bastards those viruses
Daniel Hahn said on September 11, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Just saw this…
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-09-10-flu-vaccine_N.htm
Initial studys show that there may only be a need for 1 flu shot for the H1N1....Yippee! Less needles
Jennifer Cashman said on September 15, 2009 at 6:49 am
Can you let me know if you have any information yet on the trials on pregnant women for the swine flue vaccine?
Daniel Hahn said on September 16, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Jennifer, monitor the below site.
http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00963430?term=NCT00963430&rank=1
Clinical trials ongoing. No data yet on the vacine and pregnant women.
One touch glucometer said on September 18, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Thanks for taking the time to discuss this, I feel strongly about it and love learning more on this topic. If possible, as you gain expertise, would you mind updating your blog with more information?
Amanda said on September 28, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Thanks everyone for the comments! Love it. Factchecker 2: Excellent catch! We made the change. And Daniel, thank you for the link to monitor for info on pregnancy and the H1N1 vaccine. This will be an important one to watch for lots of reasons. Nice mention of this challenge in today’s NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/28/health/policy/28vaccine.html?em
Symptoms said on September 30, 2009 at 5:21 am
i think i may be pregnant now which means i will be having a baby april next year,do you think the swine flu situation will have died down by then? I worry if my new born child caught it it wouldnt stand a chance.Im hoping they will give the vaccine to him-her,but then im thinking he-she may be to young for the vaccine and couldnt cope with it.Im just really worried for small babys.
notepad publishing said on October 10, 2009 at 12:43 am
H1N1 notepad
http://www.conspirare.net
October 2009
On October 1 2009, a former federal health minister dismisses as “crackpots and conspiracy theorists” those who would actively discourage Australians from having their swine flu vaccine’. October 2nd, the San Fransisco Chronicle publishes that ‘Everybody seems to be saying TRUST THE GOVERNMENT but it’s hard to trust the H1N1 vaccination campaign’ and on October 4rd, the Washington Post wonders ‘When the swine flu vaccine finally arrives this week, will Americans line up to get it?’ and CBS News writes about health care workers protesting the flu vaccine mandate. October 6th Foodconsumer publishes ‘Do NOT Let Your Child Get Flu Vaccine—9 Reasons Why’ and writes that ‘modern medicine has no explanation for autism, despite its continued rise in prevalence. Yet autism is not reported among Amish children who go unvaccinated’. October 7th Healthnews writes that 72 percent are concerned about potential vaccine side effects and the Examiner writes that’ theorists believe that government may force people to take the vaccine’. October 8th Times&Transscript;publishes that ‘a mercury-based preservative called thimerosal would be included as one of the substances in the H1N1 vaccine’, Medill Reports writes that Dr. Mayer Eisenstein is advising his patients to say no and is convinced that vaccines cause autism and the Los Angeles Times Blog publishes that media commentators Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh have apparently fallen prey to the loony websites of the anti-vaccine folks and that Beck would do “the exact opposite” of what the government recommended and attend a swine flu party.
September 2009
September 8th 2009, an article on EnjoyFrance reports that France, Greece the UK and the US have or are planning to make the Swine Flus vaccination mandatory and that those opposed are afraid of contracting the Guillain Barre Syndrome or even dying, an anxiety which is, according to this article, rooted in the ‘76 scare. On September 11th 2009, a Spanish security firm detects a ‘swine flu’ computer virus and this article quotes Margaret Chan, head of WHO, that she could not imagine major pharmaceutical firms to be behind the the Swine flu outbreak. On September 21th CanadafreePress publishes that the right-wing seems as enamored as the left, when it comes to using big PhRMA to make Big Money. Moammar Gadhafi Rants at U.N. General Assembly according to this article published September 23rd and suggests that the H1N1 flu virus was a military conspiracy. The ‘Right to Say ‘No’ to Vaccine’ is advocated by Khaleej Times on 24th September 2009.On September 26th, the Daily Contributor publishes that Dr Kent Holtorf, an Infectious Disease Expert wouldn’t even consider having his family take the vaccine’. On September 28th, PrisonPlanet asks the question ‘Where Did the H1N1 Late-2009 Flu Season Virus Come From?’.
April - August 2009
April 2009, NaturalNews reports that as Swine flu spreads, conspiracy theories of laboratory origins abound. June 25th, Nature News reports that Austrian Journalist Jane Burgermeister filed charges against WHO and UN for Bioterrorism and Intent to Commit Mass Murder. In August, the NWO Observer reports that an official UK government report is warning the British public that there will be countless deaths and that freight containers and “inflatable” storage units may be needed to provide extra mortuary space.
Read the full article with references @ http://www.conspirare.net
notepad publishing (a non-profit news agency based in Switzerland)
Heartburn said on October 10, 2009 at 7:27 am
Sneezing, coughing, runny nose sometimes, tiredness, heavy head feeling, chills sometimes headache for a about 10 seconds sometimes, and sometime aches in my legs and my arms.
Heartburn
Home Remedies said on October 24, 2009 at 3:33 am
Is the swine flu a genetically modified virus released on purpose?
Home Remedies
games said on November 20, 2009 at 10:00 am
Great post, Amanda.
xowii said on November 25, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Flu viruses are crafty bastards. They can change at any time. So the best defense is wisdom. You don’t need to worry about it as long as you check in with a few different, reliable sources of information every so often. What is a reliable source when it comes to swine flu? I can tell you that it’s generally not TV news. This thing is too nuanced for segments that last 52 seconds. But pick a couple sources--ideally ones that don’t all link to each other. My own favorites:
Fast Weight Loss Diets said on December 28, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Didn’t know if you have heard but they are pulling swine flu vaccines off the shelves. They are showing that they are losing their efficacy after too many months. Check the date on it before they administer it.
michael.arthur said on January 31, 2010 at 7:20 am
If anyone knows from where this Swine flu originated and why its so dangerous.?
X-Cart said on February 04, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Swine flu is in the past. Some scientists proved that swine flu were pharmacy black plan to earn money.
metro said on February 23, 2010 at 9:54 pm
thankes posted
Daniel Altura said on July 15, 2010 at 10:10 pm
I’ve never seen a flue that can kills many people. By the way thanks for sharing this info about h1n1.
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Actinic Keratosis said on August 27, 2010 at 2:39 am
In recent months I have seen two very pregnant women wearing bikinis at a local swimming spot. I have also seen pregnant women with bare belly tops at a mall and in retail stores. Also, I work out at a large coed gym, and one pregnant woman is there working out in a bare belly top several days a week.
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Chicago mover said on August 30, 2010 at 4:37 am
As per the author these 2 questions are technically unanswerable.
1. What are my chances of getting it?
2. What are my chances of dying?